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And then joining us as our interviewee is Teresa\nMachu, who was a multi-sport athlete. And so we're looking forward to this\nconversation. So I'll jump in and kind of get started, and then I want Doug and\nShirley to also pop in. Teresa, I'm going to do a big circle. I want to start\nout with what you're doing today, and toward the end of our interview, we want\nto kind of hear more about your career when you left Trinity. But today, what is\nyour job?\n\nMACHU: I'm currently an instructional specialist in PE and health in the North\nEast Independent School District in San Antonio, Texas. I've been with North\nEast School District for 28 years. Twenty-three of those years, I was at\nChurchill High School, where I was the head softball coach. I was the assistant\nathletic coordinator. I was the PE and Health Department chair. And left there\nfive years ago--gosh, I guess five years ago--to become an instructional\nspecialist in our district.\n\nPASLEY: Thank you. And we want to know more about those early years, too,\nbecause I know you were at Trinity. Let me start, and then I'll have maybe Doug\nor Shirley pick it up. Our first question really is about how did you come to\nTrinity. What brought you there? What was the attraction?\n\nMACHU: Well, it's interesting--to me, anyway--it was being a local a product. I\nwent to Alamo Heights High School. But Trinity was not one of my top choices.\nMainly because I knew that I was looking for an athletic scholarship at the\ntime. I'm only 5'2, and that was probably a very lofty goal for myself, but\nfinancially, my family needed for me to do that. Academically, I wasn't quite\nsure I could fit into Trinity. And then there was I guess the prestige or the\ndraw of maybe leaving town to go somewhere else to go to school at the time. In\nterms of outside of San Antonio, several schools that were interested, I went to\ntryouts there. However I think it was just meant to be. I met Hector and Lynn\nLuna, and they were both Trinity graduates. And we played softball--I played\nsoftball probably every night of the week. But interesting enough, I was looking\nfor a basketball scholarship. That's just kind of bizarre. But my high school\nbasketball coach was Jill Herenberg for two years that also had gone to Trinity.\nSo there are all these things coming into play. My senior year, I also played in\ntwo all-star games that happened to be hosted in the Sams Center, the Nemo\nHerrera game, and there was an all-star volleyball game. And so Coach Johnson\nwas one of the coaches at that time. That was her last year, her final year I\nthink, because she retired, and then Lynn went in as the volleyball and\nbasketball coach. Then my father became seriously ill at the end of my senior\nyear, and so it just really kind of changed everything that was going on. And my\nparents had gotten to know Hector and Lynn, and with her going in as the coach,\nit just--I ended up going to Trinity. (laughs) Which was one of the greatest\nthings in the world to happen to me. But all of those things just transpired in\nthe matter about probably--it's not like recruiting now, where you start\nprobably well ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=0.0,300.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/transcript/30533/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"before your freshman year in high school. It was later.\nBut it seemed to all happen very quickly, but it was one of the best things that\nhad ever happened to me.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: Could we have a time frame on this? What years are we talking\nabout here? I know you're the class of 1984, so when did you then first come to\nthe campus?\n\nMACHU: The spring of 1980 would have been my first visit to the campus, during\nthe all-star games.\n\nPASLEY: And you hit the Trinitonian full blast in 1980, in the fall. Because I\nwas just kind of scanning earlier today; you're in every sport,\nbasically--volleyball, basketball, softball, and track. So fall of 1980 was your\nfirst semester at Trinity, I guess?\n\nMACHU: Yes.\n\nPASLEY: And by the way, 5'2\" is an absolutely perfect height.\n\nMACHU: Great. (laughs)\n\nPASLEY: 'Cause that's me. (laughs) So we talk about recruiting, and I think\nyou've already addressed that. But were you recruited in any way, maybe even\nby--I always call her \"Rookie\"--but Lynn and Hector, or Coach Johnson? Did they\nrecruit you?\n\nMACHU: Maybe in an indirect way. Not in terms of today's definition of\nrecruiting, but in terms of providing maybe a safe place that was close to home\nfor me to go to school, where my parents felt comfortable and I felt comfortable\nwith that, since my father's health had taken such a drastic change. Which he\nwent on to outlive our mother, but it was just so--everything just happened\nright at that point.\n\nPOTEET: Teresa, that was non-scholarship?\n\nMACHU: Yes ma'am.\n\nPOTEET: And were you recruited by other schools or offered a scholarship by\nother schools?\n\nMACHU: I had tried out at Schreiner University. I was told I was too short to\nplay there. But it was amazing that--I do remember this--during the tryout,\nbeing told that I was pretty small. At least that's the way I took it. But then\nit was after I'd made my decision \"Trinity's going to be the place to go to\nschool\" we received a letter, and it was a small amount of money, but I did\n(laughs) receive a small amount of money to go there. But I had already decided\nI was going to Trinity. Texas Lutheran was another school. We grew up Lutheran\nand so TLU (Texas Lutheran University) was one school that I looked at. There\nwas also a school in California, California Lutheran College at the time. And\nquite honestly they seemed to be the most interested at that time in me, but\nsuch a long way to travel. Our mom was from Indiana, but she had a sister that\nlived in California, so we did have family out in California. But with our\nfather becoming ill, it just didn't play out. It wasn't something that I felt\nlike I could do. So I guess I was, somewhat. I wasn't offered scholarships like\nmaybe I wanted (laughs) or felt like I needed in order to help fund my college\neducation. Because that was a big part of it. But in the end, it all worked out\nthe way it was supposed to be, I think.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: Trinity wasn't giving scholarships at that time. We were Division\nIII? Let's see, maybe we weren't, in 1980. No? Okay.\n\nMACHU: I think we were AIAW (Association for Intercollegiate Athletics for Women).\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: Right, but we were not giving any athletic scholarships except for tennis.\n\nMACHU: Tennis, right.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: Maybe an academic scholarship or something like that would be\ngiven, but no athletic scholarships.\n\nMACHU: And I did end up getting a small academic scholarship. And then through\nthe help of work study--and I pretty much worked all four years of my  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=300.0,600.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/transcript/30533/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\ncollege career. Knock Knight and I became very close, because I did the laundry\nfor every sport that I played in. So I studied a lot in the laundry room down in\nthe Sams Center. Also, a couple of years for the drama department, I would get\ntheir shopping list and go to wherever they needed me to go to and purchase\nlumber or whatever they needed to bring back to the theater so that they could\nbuild their props for whatever production was going to take place. But that\nhelped pay my way through school as well.\n\nPASLEY: I was really lucky; I got quite a bit of work study help as well. My\njobs don't sound as interesting as yours were, but anyway. So yeah, 1980--I do\nwant to talk about your high school, and then we'll get to 1980. Because that\nwas kind of a deflection year. That was when Libby left and Calgaard had just\ncome in and was kind of starting down a different path. But before I talk about\nthat, tell us about your high school years. You mentioned something about it,\nbut in terms of the sports you played in high school, if you could?\n\nMACHU: I played everything in high school, as well. And of course going to Alamo\nHeights, a smaller school within larger schools, we played in the highest\nclassification of UIL (University Interscholastic League) at the time, against\nthe Churchill High Schools, the MacArthurs (High School). They were all roughly\nthree to four thousand students in enrollment and I think we were probably\naround 1,500, so it was tough. I do remember my junior and senior year, our\nfootball team went 0 and 20 (laughs), in high school. And I'm not sure we fared\nmuch better in volleyball and in basketball and in the other sports. Except for\nprobably swimming and tennis. Swimming and tennis of course were top sports\nthere. I did play tennis when I was in middle school, and then I did do some\ntennis lessons when I worked for Dr. MacLeay. When I worked summer camps at\nTrinity, I did run some of the tennis camp that went on with his sports program\nthat was there. I also did the National Youth Sports Program with Coach Norris.\nAnd so we offered tennis and swimming and different things. But my high school\nyears were awesome. I would go back and do them over again, just like I would do\nmy college years, because I just enjoyed them so much. And I do joke that my\nmother was probably more popular in high school than I was. I'm the youngest of\nthree, and I was the one that stayed in athletics or in sports, but the one\nstipulation--because we were all in band as well--I could not give up band to be\nin athletics, so I had to be in both. I still have the alto saxophone that I\nplayed in the marching band at Alamo Heights. My sister played it, my brother\nplayed it, and then I played it. And I'm the one that got to keep it. (laughs)\n\nPASLEY: I do want to get to Trinity, obviously, but you have an\ninteresting--because one of the questions we're going to have, Teresa, is about\nyour coaches. And one of the people we've interviewed of course for this project\nis Jill Herenberg O'Neill. So since you had a high school experience and we want\nto talk about coaches, could you share what that experience was like, and what\nJill was like?\n\nMACHU: Oh my gosh. Extremely competitive. And knowledgeable, and very caring for\nher athletes. I remember having--now that we're in this coronavirus\nsituation--but I do remember having the flu at one time, and just demanding to\ngo to school because we had a game that day and I had to play. And of course I\ngot to play, but dribbled the ball off my leg. I mean, I was just a mess. And I\nremember her pulling me out and telling me, \"It's okay to not be at your top of\nyour game today. You've got some other things going on.\" I probably shouldn't\nhave been out on the floor. But nevertheless she ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=600.0,900.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/transcript/30533/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"gave me the\nopportunity to try to do it. But it was not a good situation. But that was\nreally a learning experience for me at a young age. I think it was my freshman\nyear I did make the varsity team about halfway through, and Jill was the coach\nat that time. I think she wasn't the coach my senior year, but I think my\nfreshman through my junior year, she was the head basketball coach. And I just\nlearned so much about--and Charlie Boggess--I don't know if y'all know Charlie\nBoggess, but he was the men's basketball coach at Alamo Heights at the time. He\nhas been around basketball for many years. But I learned a lot from both of them\nabout managing my time, about managing my temperament (laughs) and channeling\neverything in the correct direction. And so it was a true growing experience for\nme, and I think that I had a great role model in Jill Herenberg.\n\nPASLEY: Did she have any influence on you coming to Trinity?\n\nMACHU: Well, I knew that she had gone there, but in that year amount of time\nthat we had a different basketball coach and she had moved away, it really\nwasn't--as I look back on it, no, I don't think so. I don't remember that being\na decisive point for me.\n\nPASLEY: What were all the sports that you played in your high school years? As I\nunderstand it, they weren't always at Alamo Heights. I think you did some church\nleagues, maybe?\n\nMACHU: I did. (laughs) I started playing softball when I was five. My dad had\nplayed a lot of baseball. And then when he was in the service during World War\nII, they played a lot of fast pitch softball. So I ended up kind of I guess\ngetting that naturally from my father. And so I played church league with my\nchurch, Shepherd King Lutheran Church. But that was slow pitch, and I really\nwanted to play fast pitch. So I had some really good Catholic friends, and CYO\n(Catholic Youth Organization) leagues played fast pitch, so I went down the\nstreet with some friends of mine from the Holy Spirit Catholic Church, which was\nright down the street, and played fast pitch softball with them. And then I\nplayed--I now live out in Bulverde, Texas, but there was a league out here; I\nplayed softball out here (laughs). I'd play softball every night of the week if\nI could. But then I also played volleyball and basketball and ran track in high\nschool. And had played on the tennis team in junior high, as well as those other\nsports. So there's quite a few. (laughs)\n\nPASLEY: And most of those were in high school. So you had a lot of access to\nhigh school sports than some of us did in the 1970s, I think.\n\nMACHU: Right.\n\nPASLEY: Okay. Doug or Shirley?\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: I was just going to ask, did you sleep during those years?\n\nMACHU: (laughs)\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: Particularly when you started out there at Trinity, doing all that\nextra work and playing all those sports. So you didn't have a lot of time to\njust relax, did you?\n\nMACHU: There were some really late nights. And then some of Dr. MacCleay's\nprojects, I do think I probably spent two or three solid 24-hours working on\nwhat I was going to present (laughs) after analyzing every body movement to do\nthe shot put or something like that. But I drank a lot of Tab at that time. We\ndidn't have Diet Coke, but I do remember drinking Tab.\n\nPOTEET: Teresa, with all of your athletic pursuits, did you have any trouble\nacademically balancing all of this?\n\nMACHU: Yes ma'am, I did. I did. I struggled. And one of the reasons I had to--I\nmoved ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=900.0,1200.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/transcript/30533/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"out of the work study from down in the gym because I thought I\nneeded to get away and do something, and that's when I ended up with the drama\ndepartment. And I can specifically remember calling home one night and just\ncrying to my parents. Because I did--I lived at home my freshman year. There\nwasn't the required live-on-campus at that time, so I lived at home my freshman\nyear. And then I can't really remember what year that was, but I do remember\ncrying and calling home and talking to my mom and saying, \"My grades are\nhorrible, and I've got to stop this other job with the drama department and get\nback to doing something else.\" Because I was having to drive and go places and\nbuy. And that was probably the first--I can't say that was the first time I\nstruggled, but I think that was the time that I felt like I had matured enough\nto where I knew that I wasn't making good decisions and I needed to be able to\nmanage my time a little bit better then. And so I did. I struggled. And it was\ntough (laughs). It was tough. I wasn't fearful that I wasn't going to be able to\nfinish school, but I knew that I needed to buckle down and do a better job to be\nable to finish what I had started. And Colleen (SP) was a big help (laughs). She\nwas very supportive and called me in and said, \"You've got to make some changes\nand get better and buckle down.\" And it made a big difference. I just feel like\nthroughout the whole thing, I had so many supportive people that were saying,\n\"Do this.\" Going for a run with Dr. Moore through Olmos Park and--in the\nEducation Department--and him really sharing things. We just happened to run\ninto each other on a jog and we ended up jogging through Olmos Park and had a\nreally good visit about making sure that the emphasis was in the right place.\nAnd Dr. Waldron--because I had an endorsement in special education--Dr. Waldron\nwas also very helpful. And Dr. Riester, I think I was his first advisee when he\ncame to Trinity. He also was really instrumental in getting me set straight and\nmaking sure that I was taking care of business.\n\nPASLEY: It makes you wonder, Teresa, had you gone to a larger school where you\ndidn't have that kind of opportunity for relationship with your professors--I\ndon't know. Who knows. (laughs)\n\nMACHU: No, and I completely agree, because even Dr. Brackenridge, he was a part\nof the swimming group with Coach Potter and Coach Norris that would meet up at\nthe pool. And when I was working summer camps, they would let me come in, too,\nand sometimes join them. And I think Mark Norris, because Mark Norris was\nworking camps as well. So we would be able to get into the pool and get a\nworkout in before--and so just being able to have mentors like them. And then I\ndo have to mention--and I'll say \"Mrs. Rushing\" because that's just--you're Mrs.\nRushing to me--our dance class that we had where we had twice as many girls--it\nwas a ballroom dance class--we had twice as many girls as boys, so we would have\nto take turns who got to dance with another gender. But I'm still good friends\nwith some of the people from that. David Collenback ended up being the baseball\ncoach at O'Connor High School. David was in that class. Ron Glazener was in that\nclass. Lois, who ended up marrying Ron, was in that class. Irene Hickox, now\nHolbrook (SP), was in that class, and then I ended up being in her wedding years\nafter that. But yeah, I don't think that I would have had that experience at a\ndifferent school. And quite honestly, the reason ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=1200.0,1500.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/transcript/30533/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I didn't live on\ncampus my freshman year--I had plans of not staying at Trinity. Because of my\nfather's illness, not knowing which direction that was going to go in. I\nthought, \"I'll go for one year and then see what happens after that year.\" And I\nloved it so much that they were stuck with me.\n\nPASLEY: So there's a lot of ways we can go. I realize we're halfway through\nhere. I want to make sure we get your Trinity experience in this interview as\nwell. You played all four sports. Was that an easy or hard thing? Was that just\nsomething you planned you were going to do anyway? Or did other people have\ninfluence on you being involved in all that? Or did anybody try to recommend you\nnot try to do that?\n\nMACHU: I don't think anyone recommended that I not, until I wasn't taking care\nof my business. And then I felt like if I was going to lose that part, then that\nI could not afford to do that. It was just a part of my life. But we had a\ngroup. We had a pretty tight-knit group of athletes, and the coaching staff, and\nit just seemed like the thing to do (laughs). I don't know quite how--we had\nLynn Luna, and then Carol Higy came in after Lynn, for volleyball and\nbasketball. And then we had Coach Smetzer, Gerald Smetzer. And Pete Murphy\nhelped Coach Smetzer with softball a little bit. And then Duane Henry, who came\nin as the men's basketball coach, he also then took over softball when Mr.\nSmetzer didn't coach anymore. But we all just--we knew each other, we played\nintramurals together, we just we did it all together (laughs).\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: I noticed that you also played--I think you played racquetball\ndoubles with Mr. Smetzer as your partner. MACHU: (laughs) I did! BRACKENRIDGE:\nSo you managed to work that in as well as all these other sports. Would you\ncomment on particularly the difference you see now with the way women athletes\ncome in, to where they really specialize in one sport, and they had a lot of\nbackground in that one sport, versus your era, where many of the women played\nmultiple sports, which would be very difficult to do? Sometimes the seasons even\noverlapped, and they had to play. So could you comment on that at all?\n\nMACHU: Yes, sir. Being a high school coach, and at least the coaching staffs\nthat I've been on, which for 23 years I was really on a staff that was pretty\ntight and not much change at Churchill--but we tried so hard to encourage our\nathletes to play more than one sport. To train to be an overall athlete instead\nof training specifically for one sport. We researched a lot with overuse\ninjuries in sports and found out that our girls basketball coaches specifically\nhad I don't know how many ACL tears with the girls' basketball players, and felt\nlike the overuse on just specifically training for basketball was really\nhindering their performance. And so we tried to gear kids to playing more than\none sport. You can build that competitive edge and that knowledge of being a\ngeneral athlete and be so much more marketable. And being a softball coach at a\nvolleyball school--because Churchill High School is really known for their\nvolleyball, and going to the state tournament so many years in a row and winning\nstate--and so I had to really figure out, how do I get those kids, who were good\nathletes and had played softball when they were younger but somewhere ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=1500.0,1800.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/transcript/30533/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nalong the line someone said, \"If you don't focus on this one sport, then you're\nnot going to get a scholarship.\" Or, \"You're not going to be one of the top\nplayers in that sport.\" Which we all know that it's very rare to be one of those\ntop players, and it's often very difficult to get those athletic scholarships.\nAnd I think that I had that thought back when I was graduating from high school\nas well--\"I want to be a basketball player. I want a basketball scholarship.\nThis is what I want to do.\" And it took multiple things coming together to make\nme realize that that wasn't meant for me. And I think that coming from mentors,\ngood people around me at the time, and hopefully I was one of those good people\naround the athletes that I coached, that they realized--and Trinity for me was\nthe perfect place, because I loved all sports and I wanted to be able to\nparticipate and compete in as many things as I could. So specialization, I don't\nknow why I had that in my mind. And I've talked to some Division I coaches--I\nsat at a UT (University of Texas) softball camp one year, and I sat down with\none of the UT softball coaches and she said, \"You know, Teresa, it's not the D1\n(Division I) schools that are persuading athletes to do this.\" And I said,\n\"What? You're kidding.\" And she said, \"No.\" But she did say she thought it was a\ncombination. I mean, we have clubs, select sports. There are just so many\ndifferent--I don't want to call them negative influences, but I think that they\nare forgetting that--I'm a firm believer that kids still need to be kids. And\nmaybe that's the PE side of me. We still need to be able to climb trees. We\nstill need to be able to go out and run down the street and play with our\nneighbors and go to the river and throw rocks in the river, things like that.\nAnd when there's so much time dedicated toward just one thing and there's no\nguarantee that that is going to play out, then that leads me into coping skills,\nwhich that's a whole different conversation. Because then we have trouble coping\nwith that not working out. So sorry. I get a little wordy! And I hope it makes\nsense. I don't know. PASLEY: Absolutely. So Teresa, when you were there, we were\nat an interesting point in the 1980s, I think. How do you look back at--first of\nall, kind of knowing about Title IX, 1972, and I guess 1975 when the rules\nstarted to become enforced--that was the time I was playing. And then you come\nin 1980. Libby Johnson has moved on. What is your take about those four years\nyou were there in terms of facilities, the kind of support you got, the type of\ncoaching you got?\n\nMACHU: Well, when I think of Title IX, I think of course of comparing men's and\nwomen's athletics. And during that time I can honestly tell you I was aware of\nTitle IX, but I didn't feel like there were any differences. I didn't. And I\ndon't know if that's because I was living in this dark hole and it was all\naround me? But I didn't feel like Trinity I guess elevated one group over\nanother, or one sport over another. Tennis was naturally in that position\nbecause they were still D1. But I had several good friends who were tennis\nplayers, and we all just kind of hung out together. I don't know that we pointed\nthe finger and said, \"Oh, y'all get that? Well, we don't get that. Why don't we\nget that?\" Or when we traveled for basketball, men's and women's basketball\nteams traveled together on the same bus. We played the same teams back to back,\nstayed at the same hotels. I think it was Gibby Haynes, the lead singer for--I'm\nsorry I'm going to say the Butthole Surfers, but that's (INAUDIBLE)-- ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=1800.0,2100.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/transcript/30533/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nhe's the lead singer--he was playing men's basketball at the same time that I\nwas playing women's basketball. So we were all on the same bus together. We did\nhave these two really old rickety vans that we traveled in, and those are some\ngood probably stories that Mr. Smetzer--if Pete Murphy were still around, he\nprobably could share some, too. But local trips were in those two vans. And when\nwe did get some new ones I think at one point, we were so excited. But I think\nit was very equal across the board. So I can't say that I really noticed a\ndifference. I did notice a difference in high school.\n\nPASLEY: Really!MACHU: And when I went into coaching after graduating, I did\nnotice differences. And that's kind of a whole different story. I mean, well,\nwhen I was in high school, we still played six-man basketball until maybe my\njunior year, I believe, and then we went to five-man. So that was a difference.\nI guess women weren't capable of playing with only five; we had to have six. And\nwe weren't allowed to run across center court. And then even after graduating\nfrom Trinity and I went on to--I taught one year, public school--actually,\nsorry, I taught two years--but when I went to Churchill, there were differences.\nLike we had a softball team, but we didn't have a softball field. But baseball\nhad a baseball field. We then got a baseball field but we didn't get a batting\ncage. We had to use the boys'--we had to go up and use the baseball cage up at\nthe baseball field. And then when we had a group of parents at Churchill that\nsaid, \"Oh, coach, we can build a batting cage for y'all\"--and so when I went to\nget approval, I was told no. And then it got to a point where I finally got\ncalled into the superintendent's office and got in a little trouble. Not bad\ntrouble. But the next two weeks, they started construction on not only\nChurchill's batting cage, but they started on all five of our other high\nschools. So that was that. So I really honestly at Trinity did not feel there\nwere major differences.\n\nPASLEY: Let me ask you though about softball, because I played softball in the\nmid 1970s. So that would be an exception, right?\n\nMACHU: Yeah, it would, because we practiced on an intramural field in\nfront--well, and the question--where was the baseball field on campus? For the\nlife of me, I can't remember.\n\nPASLEY: Same place it is today.MACHU: Was it there? There wasn't an\nintramural--? I guess we played intramurals in the outfield. I think that's what\nit was.\n\nPASLEY: I was thinking we played intramurals--well, when I was there, we played\nintramural softball in that patch of grass, or a patch of dirt that somebody\ndescribed, there in front of Lightner and High Rise dorms, right?\n\nMACHU: Lightner. Yes.\n\nPASLEY: So I think that's where we played intramural softball as well.\n\nMACHU: It is. Yeah.\n\nPASLEY: I have pictures.\n\nMACHU: And then our games we had to play at Lions Field, or Basse-McCullough\n(Sports Field), yeah. I had a hard time remembering where the baseball field was\nat that time, because I thought where the existing baseball field was just an\nopen field. But it's been the baseball field, is that right?\n\nPASLEY: Yeah. We used to sit on the scoreboard out there and watch the games\nwhen you could climb up and sit on the scoreboard. But the new fields now are\ngorgeous. Now, when did you come back and coach at Trinity?\n\nMACHU: Okay, so (laughs) I came back--I did my student teaching in the Fall of\n1984, so I went an extra semester. I actually got hired for my first teaching\njob before I went through the graduation ceremony. Northside (Independent School\nDistrict) was looking for a special education teacher. There wasn't any\ncoaching, and it was a self-contained emotionally disturbed classroom at the\nelementary level, and I took it. So I did that for one year, and then I went up\nto Clark High School and I coached for one year. Went back and got my master's\nand then started assistant coaching while ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=2100.0,2400.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/transcript/30533/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was working on my\nmaster's degree. So that would have been I believe in 1987. I think one of the\ndiscrepancies maybe within that, too, with Title IX, would be coaching staff. I\ndo think that assistant coaches for women were not considered full-time. But I\ndon't remember for the men if they were or not. I know Duane Henry was Coach\nMurphy's assistant coach, but I don't know exactly what his total role was and\neverything. But I did come back in 1987 and coached at Trinity for five years.\nMy last year was the first year we entered the SCAC (Southern Collegiate\nAthletic Conference).\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: What were the conditions of coaching then, where we were not in\nany league? They had pretty tough schedules, didn't you? They had to play\nscholarship teams and put together--in order to put together a team, and it was\nvery difficult to win games, right? That was a very hard time, was it not?\nParticularly those years, 1988, up until the time near where you left, it was\nstill pretty hard to get the players. And also you never did have the chance\nreally to play any length of time in the league. But that period in between,\nwhat almost impressed me when I read--I've read all the bylines about the games\nand so forth--was what you would say. That it was always that winning was\nimportant but it wasn't that important, and that you were satisfied or happy to\nsee them grow as players and as individuals. And I was always impressed with\nthat. So you might want to comment (laughs) a little bit about that?\n\nMACHU: Thank you. And I continue to feel that way, in every team that I've\ncoached since. I really think I've been fortunate--I was fortunate at Trinity to\nhave some great student athletes. They worked extremely hard. I mean, in\npractices, in off-season. Exceptional in the classroom. And knowing that from\nthe very beginning, that that really was what their future was all about: the\nclassroom part. And developing relationships with those students to the point\nwhere after I left, I still stayed in contact with a couple of them and would\nsee them at alumni games when I went back. I'm truly competitive, but I also am\nvery realistic in understanding that getting as much as you can out of an\nathlete and pushing them to be their very best and understanding that--I think\nthere are so many life lessons learned in athletics in terms of reliability,\ndependability, trustworthiness, being honest, learning to work together as a\nteam. So those very elements or characteristics are ones that were going to help\nthese young athletes in the future be better--or not better, because I think\nthey were already very good--but citizens that contribute to society to make our\nworld a better place. And I honestly believe that. But thank you for saying\nthat. (laughs)\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: We found--and Shirley can comment on this, too--with some of the\nother athletes, that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=2400.0,2700.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/transcript/30533/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what Teresa was saying was also what their goals\nwere. And that was always very impressive. That even though they may not have\nbeen great players themselves, they learned from the coaches like yourself a lot\nof these values, when we spoke to them. That those are the kinds of things that\nthey articulated. We had one woman that played tennis and she said she knew she\nwas never going to be really good. She was never going to make first team. And\nshe said, \"I knew I was mediocre, but I was going to be the best mediocre that I\ncould be.\" (laughs) I thought, \"Well, that's great.\" That they could accept that\nand find--and she went on to a very distinguished career in another area. But\nthat that's so important with athletics. You have any comment on that, Shirley?\nJust a comment on some of the things Teresa was saying about the values of\ncoaching and that winning was important, we wanted to win, but that wasn't what\nit was all about? I think that's the way you taught, too. I think that was your approach.\n\nPOTEET: We've been impressed since we first started this project. With all of\nour former athletes, no matter what their situation seemed to be to us, they\nwere always happy when they were here. Even the ones before Title IX, before\nthey started getting not equal but semi-equal money and facilities. We never\nreally have had anybody complain, have we, Doug? I cannot remember a single\ncomplaint from a single woman athlete. It has been such a pleasure to reconnect\nwith all of these people and find out that they were really happy when they were\nhere, no matter what their situation was. So it's been a thrill for us, Teresa.\nIt's been a thrill today to hear you and the career that you have had and how\nsuccessful you have been. And it also seems that people who worked when they\nwere here have been the happiest people we've interviewed. The people who didn't\nhave everything handed to them; they had to fight for it a little bit. It seems\nthat they have been so happy, and so happy with their experience at Trinity.\nMACHU: And you saying that makes me think of really my coaching philosophy over\nthe last several years has been about, \"You really have to work for what you\nwant.\" And I've tried to instill that in not only the athletes that I've\ncoached, but also the students that I've had, just the general student\npopulation that I've had in my classes. I did start off teaching math at\nChurchill and then moved into health because of football coaches' changes. And\nmoved into health and then moved into PE. But just trying to instill that basic\nvalue of, \"The choice is yours, really.\" And working hard for something, it's\nreally going to be a good payoff if you do.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: I always found as a faculty advisor that so many of the students\nhad problems with time management. And the athletes, they didn't have a problem\nwith time management. I mean, they had to cooperate with the an hour here, and\ntwo hours here, and they seemed to get things done. And it'd be the ones that\ncame in and they were taking nine hours (laughs) and they had all day  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=2700.0,3000.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/transcript/30533/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nto lie around and think about things, and they were the ones that were, \"Well, I\njust don't have enough time. I can't--\" But being an athlete, that's one of the\nother virtues, I think, that comes from that, when you have a kind of coach like\nyou and the others that we know--that many of them say, \"Well, we had an hour on\nthe bus, and we'd be doing some homework if we needed to do it. Because we knew\nthat was some time we had, and we had to make the most of it.\n\nPASLEY: On the subject of time management, I just want to do a quick check.\nTeresa, we told you we could do this in about an hour. Abra, I don't know if we\nhave a limit. So I just don't want anything to shut down in two minutes. But if\nyou can go over a few more minutes, we may have just a few more questions. Does\nanybody have a hard stop at 3:30?\n\nSCHNUR: I have it set for two hours, so we can go over.\n\nPASLEY: I don't know if you want to go two hours. (laughs) Abra, thank you. I\nhad two other quick questions. One is, did you win AP (Associated Press) Athlete\nof the Year your freshman year at Trinity for the State of Texas?\n\nMACHU: I don't know.\n\nPASLEY: We have that in some of our notes somewhere.\n\nMACHU: I don't know that. That's a good question. I do know that Gretchen Rush\nMagers and I were co-female--this was a Trinity award--but we were co-female\nathletes of the year one year. I think I have a plaque somewhere, but I'm not\nsure. But we shared that honor. But I don't know about the other.\n\nPASLEY: So Doug, the question was, it had come up somewhere in our notes that\nthey thought that you had been designated like the top female athlete in Texas\nfor colleges your freshman year. And I'm so mediocre if I had won that it would\nbe on my resume. But you probably got so many of these awards. And maybe we\nheard that wrong. I don't know.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: She was selected the TAIAW (SP) (Texas Intercollegiate Athletic\nAssociation) Division III outstanding player of the year in softball. And she\nhad all kinds of other records of batting averages and had one of the highest\nbatting averages in the country.\n\nPASLEY: Well, we have a page of you, Teresa. This is in the draft of our book.\nThere's you. And so somewhere I had read that. And that's fine. But the other\nquestion was about Libby Johnson. I know you never played for her, but it sounds\nlike you had some interaction with her. And obviously she's a key player in this\nwhole story, at least the beginning of the women's athletic history. What are\nyour impressions? What do you remember about Libby Johnson?\n\nMACHU: I was sad that she was retiring, actually. It was fortunate that it was\nLynn Luna coming in for me, but sad in that--because the players that I ended up\nplaying with--Joy Scharf, who is now Schaefer (SP), Terri Haley, Susan--and I\ncan't think of Susan's name. But there were a number of athletes that were\nupperclassmen who just spoke so highly of Libby. And my thought was, \"Wow.\" I\nwas fortunate enough to be able to be coached by her for a very short period of\ntime, but I often wondered what it would have been like to have been able to\nexperience that over a longer period of time, because she was so well respected\nand loved by the players that I was able to meet. And I think she, from what I\nheard, really fought hard for women's athletics. And I think back and I think,\nwell, I probably was just this naive young thing that all I wanted to do was\nplay. I don't think I really ever thought about that side of it. And thank\ngoodness we had women like Libby Johnson to lead the way. And maybe\nsubconsciously somewhere, I've kind of taken on some of those qualities, too,\nmyself. And maybe every female coach that has had to fight for ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=3000.0,3300.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/transcript/30533/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a\nbatting cage, or for an assistant coach, or for equal time in the gym, or an\nequal budget or anything like that, that we've all taken on qualities of Libby Johnson.\n\nPASLEY: So I was a journalism major, by the way, so while we're talking, I'm\nmuting myself so that I can type. And what you just said, I'm going to go back\nand pull out of the transcript, because I thought that was quite the--really a\ntribute to Libby and the legacy she left for people and how you guys have\ncarried that on.\n\nMACHU: Thank you. I would like to go back to Dr. Brackenridge when he made the\ncomment about the time management for athletes. And I cannot remember my anatomy\nand physiology professor's name, but I don't believe he had his doctorate, but\nhe would open up the lab for us to go into the lab at midnight at night to work\non our cats. Our cat's name was Skippy. It's really bad; I remember the cat's\nname, but I can't remember our professor's name!\n\nPASLEY: (laughs)\n\nPOTEET: But this was in the biology department?\n\nMACHU: Yes ma'am.BRACKENRIDGE: Would it be Blystone?\n\nMACHU: No. And it wasn't Dr. Koppenheffer, because I had him for a biology\nclass. I can't think of his name. He parted his hair on the side. (laughs) I can\nsee him. He wore jeans.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: He was more in psychology, I think, but he--maybe I'm wrong. But I\nknow he worked with animals, and he did a lot of work with animals.\n\nMACHU: He would make sure that we could have the lab open for us so that if we\ncame in from out of town or whatever our schedule may be, if we could get our\nlab partners to go in there, he would make sure that security knew that we were\ncoming in and we were going to be working on (laughs) dissecting our cats after\nhours or whatever we were working on. And that helped tremendously, because it\njust didn't lock us into certain time frames, and we could make it work for our\nschedule. That was one of the things that Trinity professors did to help out\nstudents and help students be successful.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: I know there were lots of times where athletes had to miss classes\nbecause of games. And I know some were a little more generous with that and some\nwere not so generous with that. But overall, at least the people that I knew\ncould work with that. Because one of the things that I remember seeing--I don't\nremember what year this was, but it was early on--that it used to be I could\njust look at a group of students and I knew they were athletes. And it came to a\npoint to where I couldn't do that anymore. They didn't just look like athletes.\nThey didn't come in and all sit in the back row and go to sleep. They were\nstudents. They were student athletes. And so it was a lot easier to make it\npossible for them to miss a class because I knew that they were committed to the\nclass as well as they were for their athletics. But that's great.\n\nMACHU: Well, I've had two family members come through Trinity since me. One, a\ncousin from St. Louis, and she was not an athlete. And then my youngest nephew,\nwho was a swimmer and ended up swimming for John Ryan. He's now of course 40\nalready and has two kids of his own, so we'll see if either one of those end up\ngoing to Trinity. But we've had two other family members come through Trinity,\nwhich is pretty awesome.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: I just wanted to read one thing before we do end up, what Mr.\nSmetzer said about you, okay? This is what I wrote. \"Smetzer singled out\nfreshman Teresa ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=3300.0,3600.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/transcript/30533/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Machu as having the potential to be one of the best\nall-around female athletes in Trinity history. As a high school sophomore, she\nwas selected All-American high school athlete based on outstanding sportsmanship\nand playing ability. Smetzer noted that Machu, quote, 'was outstanding in terms\nof hustle, pep, encouragement, attitude. You can't ask for more.'\" So that was\nhis impression of you, and I wanted you to hear that.\n\nMACHU: Thanks. I love that man. I love that man, and he ended up showing up at\nseveral softball games that I have coached over--yeah, the high school games.\nQuite often we'd go to Seguin to play. Seguin used to be in our district when\nwe'd play. So he would come watch. And I still kind of stay in touch through his\nsons, because I'll see them, and so they let me know how he's\ndoing.BRACKENRIDGE: We've been very close friends all our life. He's a\ncharacter, too.\n\nMACHU: He is.\n\nPASLEY: I love that quote because I had the privilege of playing with Jill\nHerenberg and I consider her probably the best athlete in the 1970s at Trinity.\nAnd the fact that she coached you in high school to me is just so cool. And\nobviously you probably--I mean, who knows how we'd grade this, but you were\ndefinitely one of the top athletes in the 1980s. So what a neat passing of the\ntorch, so to speak.\n\nMACHU: Exactly.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: I'd just like to say that you and the others that we've worked\nwith are really the reason why we got interested in doing this project, is that\nthat era of the 1970s, the 1980s, even into the 1990s, laid the foundation for\nwhat we have today. And so many of the women athletes have no idea--no\nidea--that Betsy had to get her own running shoes and ran in just regular shoes.\nThey didn't have uniforms; they got whatever things handed down. Like you played\nsoftball; you never played a home game. And that you had a lot of coaching\nchanges, and that you struggled with the fact that there was a real inequality\nbetween the women and the men's athletics in terms of budgets, in terms of\ncoaches, in terms of facilities. And yet the spirit and the attitude of the\nwomen from that era, we want that story told. It's not like how many games did\nyou win and how many games did you lose, and what awards. I mean, that's\nimportant, but that there be a record of that era. And on our committee, that's\nwhat we've been committed to doing. And we really appreciate you and the others\nthat take the time to come talk to us.\n\nPOTEET: And I think you'll be somewhat surprised, Teresa, to see the difference\nfrom 1965 to 1980. That ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=3600.0,3900.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/transcript/30533/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was the biggest difference in Trinity athletics.\n\nMACHU: I look forward to seeing that.\n\nPASLEY: So do we. (laughs) So we've done about 20 or more of these interviews,\nand it's been a really fun trip down memory lane. And to Doug's point and\nShirley's earlier too, to a person, those of us who were in those inequitable\ntimes were just so dang happy to be playing that we just--you're young and\nyou're living life and it's a wonderful school. And it doesn't hit you until\nlater that the reason I pulled out my arches on my feet was because I was\nrunning in Keds back then. I think we're done, unless anybody else has another\nquestion. Teresa, we really appreciate your help in this. And just getting to\nmeet you has been a real delight.\n\nMACHU: Thank you so much. I'm really honored.\n\nPOTEET: And to get to see you and hear of your very successful career, that's\nthe real thrill.\n\nMACHU: Thank you. Thank you to all of you for what you've done. Really\nappreciate it.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: I hope we get to see you on campus here sometime. MACHU: Every now\nand then, I sneak into a volleyball game. Actually a former softball player from\nChurchill, she has graduated, but do y'all remember Julie Roba?\n\nPOTEET: Oh yeah.\n\nPASLEY: Oh yeah!\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: We've interviewed her!\n\nMACHU: You did? Okay. Well, Julie's daughter Katie played softball, and Katie\nplayed softball for me at Churchill. So Julie and I visited all the time. Katie\nplayed four years for me at Churchill, so we got to--Julie and I would reminisce\nabout Trinity things all the time. So that was great. And we occasionally see\neach other now, or Katie sends me something that's going on in her life. And\nshe's off being successful as well.\n\nPASLEY: Julie and I played softball together.\n\nMACHU: Did you?\n\nPASLEY: And so next time softball is up and running again, we need to get\ntogether and meet. I always print out the schedule, but obviously that's not\nhappening this year. Abra, how are we doing? Do we need to wrap up here?\n\nSCHNUR: We still are good to go, but it sounds like you all are at a stopping point.\n\nPASLEY: I think so.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: A minor, minor point, but at the introduction, we didn't put the\nyear in when we were doing this, so maybe you can add that in.\n\nSCHNUR: Yeah I'll add it in, in the descriptive information.\n\nPASLEY: Sorry about that.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: Also, I do want to say thanks to Betsy. She has been in the\ndriver's seat now. I've had medical issues and I'm not able to do what I'd like\nto do, and she has taken over and has taken the initiative for this. And she's\ngoing to be writing up the history. She's going to take all this detail that I\nhave and make it make some sense. So we just really appreciate her, and we're\nlooking forward--we hope before too long to have something, a finished product\nthat you can all see.\n\nPASLEY: Teresa, you were talking about running with with Dr. Moore. I was in a\nrunning group with Dr. Brackenridge when I was a student, and even years since.\nAnd really it's only been a couple years since our group has kind of quit\nrunning or jogging because our knees are too old. But he's a wonderful mentor,\nand how lucky we are to have these guys. He and Shirley both.\n\nMACHU: Absolutely. Thank you so much for everything.\n\nPASLEY: You bet. Shirley, did you have something else?\n\nPOTEET: Well, I was just saying you did a good job today. This is the first time\nshe's been the head interviewer. Or maybe I think I missed one. But, good job, Betsy.\n\nPALSEY: Thanks, Shirley. Well, Teresa was easy. (laughs) Thanks, guys. I really\nappreciate it. Abra, thanks for pulling this together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=3900.0,4200.0"}]},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/index/48417","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Interview_with_Teresa_Machu.xml [Index]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/index/48417/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Introduction","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=0.0,115.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/index/48417/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Betsy Gerhardt Pasley introduces herself, Douglas Brackenridge, and Shirley Rushing Poteat. She then introduces Teresa Machu and asks her about her current life. Machu says that, for twenty years, she has worked in the Northeast Independent School District in San Antonio. For twenty three of these years, she worked at Churchill High School as a softball coach and assistant athletic coordinator. She then became an instructional specialist in P.E. and health for the district.\n","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Synopsis"]}}],"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=0.0,115.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/index/48417/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"PASLEY: Today is Wednesday, May the 13th, and it's about 2:30 p.m., and our locations are various because we are doing the Zoom video conference, on a video conference platform, to talk about the Trinity Women's Sports History Project. The interviewers today are me, Betsy Gerhardt Pasley, Dr. Doug Brackenridge, who is leading this project, and Shirley Rushing Poteet, who was at Trinity for many, many years as well. And then joining us as our interviewee is Teresa Machu, who was a multi-sport athlete. And so we're looking forward to this conversation. So I'll jump in and kind of get started, and then I want Doug and Shirley to also pop in. Teresa, I'm going to do a big circle. I want to start out with what you're doing today, and toward the end of our interview, we want to kind of hear more about your career when you left Trinity. But today, what is your job?","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=0.0,115.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/index/48417/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Why Trinity?","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=115.0,669.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/index/48417/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Pasley asks Machu why she chose to come to Trinity. Machu replies that she was a local student from Alamo Heights High School who was not initially interested in Trinity. She was looking to go to a non-local school where she could receive an athletic scholarship. Then, after meeting several Trinity graduates, including Hector and Lynn Luna, Machu’s father fell ill. Machu says that Trinity just fell into place as her school, and it worked out perfectly. She visited the campus for the first time in the Spring of 1980, during the all-star basketball and softball games. She was never formally recruited to play for Trinity. Since she was 5’2”, she did not have much luck in receiving scholarships from other schools. Machu did not receive a scholarship from Trinity, but did work study jobs for the athletic and drama departments.\n","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Synopsis"]}}],"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=115.0,669.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/index/48417/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"PASLEY: Thank you. And we want to know more about those early years, too, because I know you were at Trinity. Let me start, and then I'll have maybe Doug or Shirley pick it up. Our first question really is about how did you come to Trinity. What brought you there? What was the attraction?\n\nMACHU: Well, it's interesting--to me, anyway--it was being a local a product. I went to Alamo Heights High School. But Trinity was not one of my top choices. Mainly because I knew that I was looking for an athletic scholarship at the time. I'm only 5'2, and that was probably a very lofty goal for myself, but financially, my family needed for me to do that. Academically, I wasn't quite sure I could fit into Trinity. ","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=115.0,669.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/index/48417/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sports in High School","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=669.0,832.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/index/48417/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Machu discusses her time at Alamo Heights High School. She claims that she played “everything” in the highest classification of UIL. Alamo Heights was the smallest school in this division, so their athletics were not too competitive. She played tennis in middle school, but did not pick this up again until she ran several summer camps under Dr. McClay on the Trinity campus. Machu loved her high school experience and claims that she would “do it again.” ","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Synopsis"]}}],"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=669.0,832.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/index/48417/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"PASLEY:...But before I talk about that, tell us about your high school years. You mentioned something about it, but in terms of the sports you played in high school, if you could?\n\nMACHU: I played everything in high school, as well. And of course going to Alamo Heights, a smaller school within larger schools, we played in the highest classification of UIL (University Interscholastic League) at the time, against the Churchill High Schools, the MacArthurs (High School). They were all roughly three to four thousand students in enrollment and I think we were probably around 1,500, so it was tough. I do remember my junior and senior year, our football team went 0 and 20 (laughs), in high school. And I'm not sure we fared much better in volleyball and in basketball and in the other sports. Except for probably swimming and tennis. 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Machu says that she was extremely competitive, knowledgeable, and caring. She tells an anecdote about having the flu and “dribbling the ball of [her] leg” on the court. Harenberg pulled her out of the game and told her that it was “okay not be at the top of [her] game.” In tandem with Machu’s high school coach, Charlie Boggis, Harenberg taught Machu how to manage her time and temperament. \n","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Synopsis"]}}],"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=832.0,1130.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/index/48417/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"PASLEY: I do want to get to Trinity, obviously, but you have an interesting--because one of the questions we're going to have, Teresa, is about your coaches. And one of the people we've interviewed of course for this project is Jill Herenberg O'Neill. So since you had a high school experience and we want to talk about coaches, could you share what that experience was like, and what Jill was like?\n\nMACHU: Oh my gosh. Extremely competitive. And knowledgeable, and very caring for her athletes. I remember having--now that we're in this coronavirus situation--but I do remember having the flu at one time, and just demanding to go to school because we had a game that day and I had to play. And of course I got to play, but dribbled the ball off my leg. I mean, I was just a mess. And I remember her pulling me out and telling me, \"It's okay to not be at your top of your game today. You've got some other things going on.\" I probably shouldn't have been out on the floor. But nevertheless she gave me the 00:15:00opportunity to try to do it. But it was not a good situation. But that was really a learning experience for me at a young age. I think it was my freshman year I did make the varsity team about halfway through, and Jill was the coach at that time. I think she wasn't the coach my senior year, but I think my freshman through my junior year, she was the head basketball coach. And I just learned so much about--and Charlie Boggess--I don't know if y'all know Charlie Boggess, but he was the men's basketball coach at Alamo Heights at the time. He has been around basketball for many years. But I learned a lot from both of them about managing my time, about managing my temperament (laughs) and channeling everything in the correct direction. And so it was a true growing experience for me, and I think that I had a great role model in Jill Herenberg.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=832.0,1130.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/index/48417/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Balancing Athletics and Academics","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=1130.0,1657.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/index/48417/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Machu claims that she struggled with balancing athletics and academics during college. Her grades suffered due to her academic commitments, so she had to quit her job with the drama department. She had to learn how to manage her time  better and found a great support system in Coleen Grissom. She cites several other professors who helped her through this time, including Dr. Moore, Dr. Waldron, and Dr. Reaster, her advisor. Machu claims that she would not have had this experience at a larger school. She then discusses several friends that she met during a dance class at Trinity and still keeps in touch with. She did not expect to find this community at Trinity, which is why she did not live on campus during her first year. Pasley asks Machu if she ever considered cutting her athletic commitments. Machu says that she did not because she had such a strong support system in the athletic department.\n","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Synopsis"]}}],"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=1130.0,1657.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/index/48417/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRACKENRIDGE: Particularly when you started out there at Trinity, doing all that extra work and playing all those sports. So you didn't have a lot of time to just relax, did you?\n\nMACHU: There were some really late nights. And then some of Dr. MacCleay's projects, I do think I probably spent two or three solid 24-hours working on what I was going to present (laughs) after analyzing every body movement to do the shot put or something like that. But I drank a lot of Tab at that time. We didn't have Diet Coke, but I do remember drinking Tab.\n\nPOTEET: Teresa, with all of your athletic pursuits, did you have any trouble academically balancing all of this?","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=1130.0,1657.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/index/48417/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Evolution of Women’s Athletics","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=1657.0,1992.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/index/48417/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Brackenridge asks Machu to comment on the difference between women’s athletics then and now. She discusses her time as a coach at Churchill High School, claiming that she always encouraged young women to try a variety of sports. She believes that playing only one sport can lead to overuse injuries and hinder performance. Today, Machu thinks that too much focus is placed on receiving a scholarship for one sport. In high school, she thought that she wanted to only be a basketball player; however, she soon realized that this was not the right path for her. Trinity nurtured her desire to play multiple sports and allowed her to pursue a variety of athletic passions.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Synopsis"]}}],"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=1657.0,1992.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/index/48417/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRACKENRIDGE: I noticed that you also played--I think you played racquetball doubles with Mr. Smetzer as your partner. MACHU: (laughs) I did! BRACKENRIDGE: So you managed to work that in as well as all these other sports. Would you comment on particularly the difference you see now with the way women athletes come in, to where they really specialize in one sport, and they had a lot of background in that one sport, versus your era, where many of the women played multiple sports, which would be very difficult to do? Sometimes the seasons even overlapped, and they had to play. So could you comment on that at all?\n\nMACHU: Yes, sir. Being a high school coach, and at least the coaching staffs that I've been on, which for 23 years I was really on a staff that was pretty tight and not much change at Churchill--but we tried so hard to encourage our athletes to play more than one sport. To train to be an overall athlete instead of training specifically for one sport. We researched a lot with overuse injuries in sports and found out that our girls basketball coaches specifically had I don't know how many ACL tears with the girls' basketball players, and felt like the overuse on just specifically training for basketball was really hindering their performance. And so we tried to gear kids to playing more than one sport. You can build that competitive edge and that knowledge of being a general athlete and be so much more marketable.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=1657.0,1992.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/index/48417/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Title IX in the 1980s","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=1992.0,2350.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/index/48417/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Pasley inquires about the impact of Title IX on Machu’s Trinity experience. Machu came to Trinity in 1980 and claims that she did not see a great difference between the treatment of men’s and women’s athletics at this time. Machu discusses Gibby Haynes, who later became the lead singer for the Butthole Surfers, and his career as a basketball player at Trinity. She claims that the women’s and men’s basketball teams travelled on the same buses. \n\nMachu says that she did, however, notice a difference in the treatment of women athletes during high school and when she became a coach. In high school, the women’s team was only allowed to play six-man basketball while the men were allowed to play with five. When she began coaching, there was a baseball field for men, but no softball field for the women. This was the same at Trinity; women’s softball played on an intramural field. Machu claims that the lack of a softball field was the only instance of athletic inequity at Trinity.\n","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Synopsis"]}}],"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=1992.0,2350.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/index/48417/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"PASLEY: Absolutely. So Teresa, when you were there, we were at an interesting point in the 1980s, I think. How do you look back at--first of all, kind of knowing about Title IX, 1972, and I guess 1975 when the rules started to become enforced--that was the time I was playing. And then you come in 1980. Libby Johnson has moved on. What is your take about those four years you were there in terms of facilities, the kind of support you got, the type of coaching you got?\n\nMACHU: Well, when I think of Title IX, I think of course of comparing men's and women's athletics. And during that time I can honestly tell you I was aware of Title IX, but I didn't feel like there were any differences. I didn't. And I don't know if that's because I was living in this dark hole and it was all around me? But I didn't feel like Trinity I guess elevated one group over another, or one sport over another. Tennis was naturally in that position because they were still D1.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=1992.0,2350.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/index/48417/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Coaching at Trinity","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=2350.0,3073.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/index/48417/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Pasley asks Machu when she came to coach at Trinity. Machu describes her first job after graduation, which was teaching special education at North Side Elementary. After one year, she went to coach at Clark High School. Machu then started assistant coaching while working on her Master’s degree. In 1987, she came back to Trinity and served as a coach for five years.\n\nBrackenridge discusses Machu’s coaching philosophy, claiming that she was more focused on the growth of her players than their winnings. Machu says that she had a “great” group of student athletes at Trinity, who were hardworking and driven on the court and in the classroom. She believes that they honed a great deal of invaluable life skills through athletics, including honesty and reliability. These skills allowed them to succeed in their lives and non-athletic careers. Rushing praises Machu’s coaching style and claims that women who participated in Trinity women’s athletics following the instatement of Title IV seemed to be incredibly happy with their experiences. Brackenridge says that, as a student advisor, he realized that student athletes typically had the best time management skills.\n","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Synopsis"]}}],"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=2350.0,3073.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/index/48417/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"PASLEY:...Now, when did you come back and coach at Trinity?\n\nMACHU: Okay, so (laughs) I came back--I did my student teaching in the Fall of 1984, so I went an extra semester. I actually got hired for my first teaching job before I went through the graduation ceremony. Northside (Independent School District) was looking for a special education teacher. There wasn't any coaching, and it was a self-contained emotionally disturbed classroom at the elementary level, and I took it. So I did that for one year, and then I went up to Clark High School and I coached for one year.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=2350.0,3073.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/index/48417/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Achievements and Libby Johnson","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=3073.0,3576.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/index/48417/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Pasley asks Machu if she won AP athlete of the year for the state of Texas during her freshman year. Machu does not remember, but she does remember receiving the co-athlete of the year award with Gretchen Rush Majors. Pasley then asks about Machu’s memories of Libby Johnson. Machu recalls being sad about her retirement; many of her upperclassman peers spoke highly of Johnson. She remembers Johnson as a pioneer who was highly revered in the women’s athletic department. She claims that she, and every woman who coached at Trinity, embodied a piece of Johnson’s legacy.\n\tMachu circles back to the discussion of athletes and time management. She tells an anecdote about a biology professor, claiming that he would open the labs overnight for athletes to work on their labs. Machu then says that her cousin and nephew went to Trinity.\n","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Synopsis"]}}],"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=3073.0,3576.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/index/48417/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":" I had two other quick questions. One is, did you win AP (Associated Press) Athlete of the Year your freshman year at Trinity for the State of Texas?\n\nMACHU: I don't know.\n\nPASLEY: We have that in some of our notes somewhere.\n\nMACHU: I don't know that. That's a good question. I do know that Gretchen Rush Magers and I were co-female--this was a Trinity award--but we were co-female athletes of the year one year. I think I have a plaque somewhere, but I'm not sure. But we shared that honor. But I don't know about the other.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=3073.0,3576.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/index/48417/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Machu’s Excellence","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=3576.0,3783.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/index/48417/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Brackenridge reads Machu an excerpt written by Dr. Smitzer. In this excerpt, he describes her as having the “potential to be one of the best all-round female athletes at Trinity.” Machu says that she “loves that man” and that he supported her as a coach by coming to Churchill High School softball games. Pasley says that Jill Harenberg was the best female athlete at Trinity during the 1970s. She claims that Harenberg “passed the torch” to Machu after coaching her in high school.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Synopsis"]}}],"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=3576.0,3783.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/index/48417/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRACKENRIDGE: I just wanted to read one thing before we do end up, what Mr. Smetzer said about you, okay? This is what I wrote. \"Smetzer singled out freshman Teresa Machu as having the potential to be one of the best 01:00:00all-around female athletes in Trinity history. As a high school sophomore, she was selected All-American high school athlete based on outstanding sportsmanship and playing ability. Smetzer noted that Machu, quote, 'was outstanding in terms of hustle, pep, encouragement, attitude. You can't ask for more.'\" So that was his impression of you, and I wanted you to hear that.\n\nMACHU: Thanks. I love that man. I love that man, and he ended up showing up at several softball games that I have coached over--yeah, the high school games. Quite often we'd go to Seguin to play. Seguin used to be in our district when we'd play. So he would come watch. And I still kind of stay in touch through his sons, because I'll see them, and so they let me know how he's doing.BRACKENRIDGE: We've been very close friends all our life. He's a character, too.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=3576.0,3783.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/index/48417/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":" Closing Comments","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=3783.0,4172.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/index/48417/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Brackenridge claims that today’s female athletes are not aware of the struggles that their predecessors had to face. He says that the aim of this oral history project is to capture the “spirit and attitude” of the early days of Trinity women’s athletics. Machu discusses Julie Roba, claiming that she coached her daughter, Katie. The interviewers and Machu say goodbyes and close out the interview.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Synopsis"]}}],"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=3783.0,4172.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112/index/48417/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRACKENRIDGE: I'd just like to say that you and the others that we've worked with are really the reason why we got interested in doing this project, is that that era of the 1970s, the 1980s, even into the 1990s, laid the foundation for what we have today. And so many of the women athletes have no idea--no idea--that Betsy had to get her own running shoes and ran in just regular shoes. They didn't have uniforms; they got whatever things handed down. Like you played softball; you never played a home game. And that you had a lot of coaching changes, and that you struggled with the fact that there was a real inequality between the women and the men's athletics in terms of budgets, in terms of coaches, in terms of facilities. And yet the spirit and the attitude of the women from that era, we want that story told. It's not like how many games did you win and how many games did you lose, and what awards. I mean, that's important, but that there be a record of that era. And on our committee, that's what we've been committed to doing. And we really appreciate you and the others that take the time to come talk to us.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/46056/file/119112#t=3783.0,4172.0"}]}]}]}