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I'm R. Douglas Brackenridge, retired\nprofessor in the Department of Religion. I'm talking with Julie Jenkins, who has\nbeen a member of our Trinity Athletics staff since 1985, right?\n\nJENKINS: Yep.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: And as I understand, you coached volleyball, softball, junior\nvarsity tennis. What else?\n\nJENKINS: Yep, that was it.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: Those are the three, okay. Our conversation is going to be about\nthe early days and her impression of what women's intercollegiate athletics were\nlike when she started at Trinity. Let me just ask a bit about personal\nbackground, because I want to find this out. What interested you in athletics in\nthe first place?\n\nJENKINS: I came to Trinity from Virginia Commonwealth University, and I was the\ninterim head volleyball coach. So I knew I would be leaving VC after one year,\nbecause the coach was coming back. I went to the AFER (SP) convention in\nAtlanta, and that's where I made contact with Gene Norris. I was interviewing\nfor positions, and there was an opening at Trinity. And I knew nothing of\nTrinity. I had never been to Texas. And I submitted by application to a number\nof universities. And then when I got back to Richmond, I talked to my athletic\ndirector and tennis coach at William \u0026 Mary. I talked to my volleyball coach--I\nhad played volleyball and tennis at William \u0026 Mary--and they were very familiar\nwith Trinity because of the tennis. And I had played tennis at William \u0026 Mary.\nSo I heard really good things about Trinity through my college coaches, and so I\ngot interested even more. Then when I got a call from Gene Norris that they\nwanted to bring me in for an interview, I thought, \"Great, I'll come in.\" And\nobviously I wanted to go to a university, number one, that I thought was\nfinancially stable, similar to a William \u0026 Mary, where I didn't have to worry\nabout them making cuts in their athletic department. That the volleyball program\ncould be in jeopardy down the road. I wanted to go somewhere where it was a\nreally good school, academically, similar to where I was at William \u0026 Mary.\nThose were the type of student athletes I wanted to work with. So just the\nschool itself I thought was a really good school, after researching it. And\nfinancially sound. I was impressed with the success of the tennis, not so much\nof everything else. And so when I came and interviewed, President Calgaard--back\nin that time, you did interview with the president. And he told me that we\nweren't going to remain an independent, that we would join a conference. And\nfive years--well, actually more like six years later, we did. 1991 is when the\nmen joined. The women joined in 1992. So I was attracted to Trinity because it\nwas what I was looking for in a university. Not so much location or anything\nlike that. But very similar to William \u0026 Mary. And obviously I'm really happy\n(laughs) that I came.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: Let's just back this up even more. What interested you in\nathletics in the first place? How did you get into athletics?\n\nJENKINS: Well, it was always a big part of my life, a really big part of my\nlife. And when I went off to college, I was going to major either in business or\nin physical education. My father was not very crazy about me thinking about\nmajoring in physical education, so it made him happy that I was also going to\nlook at business. But I ended up pursuing physical education, because I knew\nthat I wanted to coach. But anyway, sports were always a tremendous part of my\nlife. The first thing I learned to do was snow ski and water ski. Those were my\nfirst sports, and that was at five years old. We lived right near a ski area, so\nthat was something our family did every weekend. And then water skiing, I picked\nup the same year. And then after that, I was--it's a good question that you're\nasking because ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/45828/file/118932#t=0.0,300.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/45828/file/118932/transcript/30481/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"my older sisters didn't have the opportunities that I\nhad. 1972 was Title IX. And I was very, very fortunate that the high school that\nI attended in New York was on top of things. Trinity, not so much. And I can go\ninto that, but Trinity was majorly in Title IX violation. Major. But that didn't\nbother me, because I knew things were going to change, and I knew what President\nCalgaard told me. And I felt that there was a future. But at my high school--I\nhave a sister that's six years older than me--they had nothing for women's\nathletics, girls athletics in high school. Nothing. She was a cheerleader. She\nskied. She ran. She liked to bicycle. There were no sports for her. Then I have\na sister that's three years older. And they introduced cross-country for girls,\nand that was it. So she got to do cross-country, with a lot of flak. They made\nthem wear the boys' uniforms and all that. By the time I got to high school--so\nI graduated from high school in 1977, so I was a freshman in, what, 1973? Yeah,\nthe fall of 1973, I was a freshman. And I was so lucky I didn't even know it! I\ndidn't even realize that my older sisters didn't have those opportunities. I\njust thought they weren't interested in sports. But we had everything. Not only\ndid we have everything, but I played boys sports too. The way the rule worked\nback then for Title IX is if you didn't offer it for one gender, the other\ngender could play in it. So we had women's tennis--girls tennis in the\nspring--and I played that. But we had boys tennis in the fall, and I have no\nidea why, but they let me play boys tennis! And I was the number one player on\nthe boys team. And the only reason I'm telling you that is, I am amazed,\nthinking back on that, that I didn't get any flak from the other guys. Well,\nfirst of all, my boyfriend was on the tennis team. But I didn't get any flak\nfrom parents of their sons that were on the team, from the coach. I felt very\nwelcomed. So I'm amazed about that, thinking back on it. And probably the reason\nis because I was able to help their team.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: And where was this, in New York?\n\nJENKINS: Owego, New York. So we had tennis, we had softball, we had field\nhockey, we had track and field, we had volleyball. Obviously we had basketball\nsince then. They've added other sports. I think they've added lacrosse. They've\nadded a swimming program. But unbelievable, in 1973, I had all those sports that\nI could play. So I played boys tennis in the fall, I played girls basketball in\nthe winter, followed by girls volleyball in the winter--there were two segments\nin the winter--and then followed by girls tennis in the spring. I played four\nsports. I was super lucky. And then, on top of that, I had unbelievable coaches.\nI had just superior coaches. I had a woman's coach for girls tennis who just was\nout of this world, and a man for girls basketball--Al Marine (SP) was his name,\nand he was so good. And then boys tennis, that coach was okay. And volleyball\nhad an outstanding coach, too. And one year, our volleyball team--this was in\n1999 here at Trinity--we played in the NCAA quarterfinals in Ithaca, New York,\nwhich is 30 miles from my hometown. And to my surprise, I don't know how my high\nschool found out about it, but my former basketball coach, who was then the AD,\nthey got a busload of kids and brought them to our match, in Owego. And I saw my\nvolleyball coach for the first time since I'd graduated, and other coaches. It\nwas amazing! It was really something else. So I was really lucky that I had all\nthe programs to play, and that we had outstanding coaches, full-time coaches.\nNot the part-time coaches like we had here at Trinity. So I was really lucky,\nsuper lucky. And then I just knew--sports was such a big part of me that I just\ncouldn't imagine not doing something sports-related.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: Were ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/45828/file/118932#t=300.0,600.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/45828/file/118932/transcript/30481/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you aware of all that was going on with Title IX,\nat your age? Was that something you were--?\n\nJENKINS: I knew nothing about it. Nothing. Well, I shouldn't say I knew nothing\nof it. The only reason I knew a little about it was because I got to play boys\ntennis. And tennis was my main sport, so I was over the moon, that I got to play\nin the fall and in the spring. And it really helped me. Tennis is what got me\ninto William \u0026 Mary. I would not have gotten accepted into William \u0026 Mary if it\nweren't for my tennis. Because I had other classmates in high school who applied\nto William \u0026 Mary, who were brighter than me. Well, I'm not going to say they\nwere brighter than me, but they tested higher than me on the SAT. And they\ndidn't get in. I knew I was lucky to get in.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: But then--this is a \"what if.\" If that hadn't been the situation,\nit would have been very unlikely that you would have gone on to a career in athletics.\n\nJENKINS: I wouldn't have played sports in college, and I definitely would not be coaching.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: Or you'd have played, and they would have been kind of half\nintramural or whatever, right?\n\nJENKINS: Right, yeah. I would have never had a career in sports if it weren't\nfor that.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: That says a lot to me. That was my first question. Then, your\nimpression of what--you've already told me a bit about--you knew a good bit\nabout the school; it was academic, and so forth. What was your impression then\nof the way women's intercollegiate athletics were conducted, and what problems,\nif any, or issues? Plus or minus. You had already had some experience, so you\nhad something to judge it, compare it with.\n\nJENKINS: Well, when I came here and I interviewed, obviously I was very\nimpressed with the campus, the people. Like that interview, that was a fabulous\ninterview. We don't do that anymore. Candidates don't get to interview with the\npresident. They don't interview with the vice president. They come in here, and\nthey're going to interview with a committee. They're going to interview with\nAdmissions. It's still very thorough, in my opinion. They're going to interview\nwith Admissions. They're going to interview with Financial Aid. They're going to\ninterview with the committee, and then the chair, and then Bob King. It's the\nsame as it was before. And, they're going to interview with the team. What they\nno longer do is they don't interview with the president.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: Do you know if that is the case with this new president, even?\n\nJENKINS: I think so. I'm pretty certain. Because we just hired a new women's\nsoccer coach, and I chaired that committee. So, no. But anyway, I was super\nimpressed with Trinity. Still am in awe of this university. I always, even\ntoday, feel lucky to be here. Always. It's everything I hoped it would be, and\nmore. So when I interviewed, I had no concept of how were things at Trinity, was\neverything equitable, who were the full-time coaches, who were the part-time\ncoaches, how's women's athletics being treated. I had no idea about that, and\nnor was that my concern when I came in here. When I came in here, I wanted to\nknow if I felt that I had the opportunity to build a successful volleyball\nprogram. And I felt that the answer was yes. I felt that I could. Because I knew\nwe weren't going to remain an independent. President Calgaard said that his hope\nwas to get us into a conference. And so I will tell you, the first five years\nthat I was here was very difficult. We worked our tails off. And we didn't have\nwinning seasons. I had one season where we had seven wins, I think. We were like\n7 and 25, something. It was humiliating. I mean, I can tell you a whole bunch of\nthings if you want to know. So what I realized when I came here was that the\nmodel for physical education and athletics--and it was physical education at\nfirst, without a doubt--Shirley would run--I had the utmost respect for Shirley.\nI had the utmost respect for Gene Norris. And I felt that this was the\nenvironment that I want to be in. I felt like everybody was super professional,\nreally cared about their programs. But the model that we had was not set up for\nsuccess for athletics, without a doubt. It was a bomb. When ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/45828/file/118932#t=600.0,900.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/45828/file/118932/transcript/30481/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I came\nhere, tennis was successful, but they were starting to drop off, because\nPresident Calgaard had raised the admissions standards. And so when I got here\nin 1985, the men's tennis was barely hanging on to top ten. They may have been\nmore like top 15, which was not what they were typically accustomed to. They\nwere accustomed to being top five. The women were number two in the country\nbehind Stanford. Gretchen Rush was the number one player in the country that\nyear. And after that first year, 1985, we steadily started to drop lower and\nlower. The women did, the men did. And then as you know, we dropped to Division\nIII. And in my opinion, when that happened, I felt like--you know, this is super\ncontroversial. I felt terrible for the tennis tradition, the alumni, the current\nplayers, the coaches. I definitely felt bad about it and sympathetic. But I also\nfelt that this was probably what was going to be best for our athletic program\nas a whole. That we weren't just putting all of our eggs into one basket, and\neverybody else is terrible. Because everybody else was terrible. Volleyball was\nterrible. Women's basketball was terrible. Men's basketball was okay; that was\none of the few full-time coaches. But I don't think they had a winning record.\nFootball was horrendous. And so forth. No one was successful, except for men's\nand women's tennis. But I don't ever remember that really consuming me. I was\njust my little tunnel vision: What am I going to do to build this volleyball\nprogram? And I only coached softball one year. That told me that was a one-year\ndeal. I wasn't going to have to coach it after that. Not that I didn't want to,\nbut you can't do everything and be successful. And I had men's and women's JV\ntennis. But basically, my impression at the beginning, and even in those first\nfive years, I don't think I really thought that much about all the inequities. I\nthink about it more now, and how far we've come, and how grateful I am. But I\nthink more then, I just decided, \"I have to do something. There's no way our\nvolleyball team is this bad!\" But I was teaching three--the reason I'm saying\nthe model was not a successful model for athletics--it was successful for\nphysical education--but you came and you taught three--well, first of all, I'm\ngoing to back up. Libby Johnson, who I never got the pleasure to meet, who died\nin her forties of a heart attack, she was coaching four sports. I've asked Terri\nHailey about this, and that's somebody you should interview. She's in the\nAthletic Hall of Fame. Shirley will definitely know Terri.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: She was a player.\n\nJENKINS: Well, Shirley--she was education. Shirley knew her, because Shirley\nwanted her to get a job teaching, and she never ended up going into that\nprofession. I'll give you her cell number. She played from 1977 and graduated in\n1981. And she will be a great resource for you. But Libby Johnson, she not only\ncoached like four sports in one year, but she was coaching sports that went on\nat the same time! So like for example, she might have been doing softball and\ntrack, head coach for both. I don't know, Terri can tell you more about it. And\nthen she was teaching not only activity classes, but three-hour upper level\ncourses. And I believe she was teaching about 12 hours a semester, and coaching\nfour sports. I mean, that's ridiculous. You think that Pete Murphy was doing\nthat for men's basketball? No. Or Houston Wheeler for baseball? No. Now, they\nwere doing a lot, and I have high regards for both. Anyway. So then, when I\ncame, there was only full-time coaches for volleyball, football--so it was me,\nvolleyball, and then I also coached tennis after that first year. I had men's\nand women's JV tennis. We had Pete Murphy, who was ill when I first came, so\nDuane--was it Duane?--Duane Henry was the acting head coach, and then I think he\nwas promoted to head coach. And then Gene, who also was the athletic director,\nwho also was teaching activity classes. I mean, are you kidding me? I mean, I\nremember him teaching gymnastics. And that was crazy. I don't think Houston\nWheeler was still coaching when I came. It might have been a new person. But the\nhead positions were men's and women's tennis, volleyball, men's basketball,\nfootball, and baseball. There were six head-time (SP) coaches. Everybody else\nwas part time. And we didn't have some of those sports back then, also. We\ndidn't have men's and women's swimming. We didn't have women's golf. Soccer was\npart time. Women's basketball was part time. Everybody was part time. But\nanyway, so ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/45828/file/118932#t=900.0,1200.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/45828/file/118932/transcript/30481/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I didn't really think about all that. But the title that I\nhad after that first year of softball was that I had JV tennis men, JV tennis\nwomen. And I ran separate practices for them in the spring. Two separate\npractices. So that was four hours of practice. And then I also had my off-season\nfor volleyball, and there was zero time to recruit. So I did this for five\nyears. We were terrible. And then I can remember, I went to Gene Norris, and I\nsaid, \"This just is not working. Do I have permission from you to--?\" What I did\nwas, I had my PE classes--I had three of them a semester, and I took them super\nseriously. I mean, you better take them seriously, or you are out of there.\n[laughs] Shirley had a meeting once a week, and that's--that was a physical\neducation major back then. We don't have that major now. But I just decided,\nlook--I was spending a lot of time on my syllabus for class. I'm like, \"I'm not\ndoing that anymore. I'm winging it. And I'm going to combine the two tennis\npractices. I'm going to have one. And I'm recruiting. And I'm going to recruit\nas hard as I can possibly recruit, and if it doesn't make a difference, I'm\nleaving. Because this just isn't set up for success.\" You can't be a professor\nand be a coach; there's just no--obviously, all of our coaches weren't bad\ncoaches, but all of our coaches had losing programs, except for tennis. So I\nmade that decision, and I recruited my tail off.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: Were you allowed to go out, and they funded you to do that?\n\nJENKINS: Yeah, but the other problem with the first couple years is there was no\nclub volleyball. After my first five years, club volleyball came along, and like\nclub soccer. And I remember traveling to New Orleans, and there was a big\ntournament. I didn't travel like I do now; I've spent more money than you can\nimagine traveling to go recruit, between me and our assistant coach. But I\nremember--anyway, we brought in our first All-American after that. So we had\nfive years of terrible seasons, and I was miserable. And so I didn't like\ndisregard my PE classes; I still took them very seriously. But I was not going\nto sit down and do this long hour syllabus. I wasn't going to do it. Or lesson\nplans; you know what I mean. And then same thing with the JV tennis; I combined\nit. So it gave me more time to make calls at night, go recruit. And I think I\nbrought in like 12 kids that next fall, something like that. It was an enormous\nclass. And we had our first All-American; it was Amy Waddell. But then I\nrealized, well, you have to put in this level of effort recruiting every year.\nYou can't let up. And then Gene Norris retired, and Bob King came in. And then\nwhen Bob King came in, that's when the wheels started turning big time. The\nwhole model changed. Nobody was coaching two sports anymore. You had a second\nresponsibility. We went from teaching three classes to a semester to one. We\nhired more part-time folks to teach our activity classes.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: That would have been just like early 1990s?\n\nJENKINS: Early 1990s, something like that.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: And that's when we went into a conference, right around that?\n\nJENKINS: Right. We went into a conference. We got funding. All kinds of things\nhappened in the early 1990s.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: You got the Bell Center.\n\nJENKINS: We renovated the Bell Center. We got into a conference. We went to all\nfull-time coaches. We got rid of all these part-time head coaches. And it was no\nfault of Gene Norris. When you come in and you're new, you make your requests on\nwhat you think it's going to take to be successful. And so our athletic director\nno longer was going to be teaching activity classes, coaching another sport.\nGene Norris did a fabulous job. We inducted him into the Hall of Fame. It was\nimpressive, what he did. But it was very difficult for him to have successful\nfootball seasons with all that he was doing.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: Just so I can get this clear, these women you were recruiting,\nthey were not getting athletic scholarships?\n\nJENKINS: No, no.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: So they had to be students that could--\n\nJENKINS: High academic.  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/45828/file/118932#t=1200.0,1500.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/45828/file/118932/transcript/30481/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: --that could make it into--\n\nJENKINS: Oh, yeah. Just like they are now. It's not any different. You've got to\nbe high academic. Families have got to be able to afford it. Every once in a\nwhile, we'll get somebody who's high-need, but most of the time, they're not\nhigh enough need. It's too much for their parents. So you really--you're more\ntowards getting families where they can afford it. But anyway, so much has\nchanged, it's unbelievable. We've gone to full-time coaches. We're now in a\nconference. Not only did we go to full-time coaches, but the model changed,\nwhere you were set up to be more successful. I don't coach two sports now. I\nteach one activity class a semester. And believe me, recruiting is full-time in\nitself. We travel all over the United States to go recruit. But anyway, but\nthinking back on that period, Trinity was very, very behind the times for Title\nIX. So here was the environment when I did come in. And again, I don't ever\nremember thinking, \"Oh, I'm going to speak up about this\" or it even registered.\nI just--I was so happy to be here; that has never changed. I just don't ever\nthink I would even have said--I don't even think I was thinking about it. But\nnow, looking back on it, I know what the situation was. So here was the\nsituation: I come in; we have very few full-time coaches, like I said. We had no\ntrainer for women's athletics. Levi Knock was the head trainer, and he wanted\nnothing to do with the women. So we had no trainer. The guys had locker rooms;\nthe women did not. You'd go in the men's basketball locker room; they had a\nwhirlpool. They had tables set up for rehab. They had a TV. Girls athletics, you\nwent in to pee (SP) locker room and changed. There was no facility. You had a\nbaseball facility on campus; softball was off campus. No facility for girls\nsoftball. And that's why there were no stats. And you only had one person, the\nSID, who I guess at the time was James Hill, I suppose--well, he was the SID\nwhen I came in. And you could only be in one place at a time. And like I\nmentioned, we had student trainers keeping the stats, and very limited stats.\nThere were certain stats they didn't keep.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: And you said the record keeping as such was all (INAUDIBLE).\n\nJENKINS: It wasn't that it got lost. It was that there was no recordkeeping,\nperiod. It was just enough to send in the score to the newspaper, or I don't\nknow. Again, the model was not set up for success. You can't have one person in\nsports information and think that they're going to be able to keep stats of all\nthe programs.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: Wouldn't you just say--again, I'm influenced by my own\nimpression--was that there was culturally a sense that women's sports were not\nthe caliber of men's sports (INAUDIBLE)?\n\nJENKINS: I don't know how they could have possibly thought that, because women's\ntennis was even more--well--\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: Right. Probably not so much the tennis, but I mean--\n\nJENKINS: Yeah, I know. I don't know. I have no idea. I just know that when I got\nhired here in 1985, I think that things were starting to change. And I will tell\nyou, I am very, very grateful to President Calgaard. Extremely. Because that was\nno easy deal on his part, to arrange for Trinity to join the SCAC. Because the\nSCAC, all of the schools then, it was the men that were in the SCAC. All the\nwomen were in a different conference. So it wasn't just adding Trinity to the\nSCAC; it was getting the women to pull out of the other conference and come into\nthe SCAC. So it was complicated, and he was the driving force, no doubt about\nit. And the reason I say I'm so grateful is because we were the only Texas\nschool. For him to get us into a conference, that was enormous funding that he\nhad to budget for all the sports for us to (INAUDIBLE).\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: But didn't he create that conference?\n\nJENKINS: No, no.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: That was already in existence?\n\nJENKINS: Yes. And the men were already in it, but the women were in a different\nconference. That was instant--what's the word I'm looking for?-- ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/45828/file/118932#t=1500.0,1800.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/45828/file/118932/transcript/30481/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we\nhad something to sell, recruiting-wise. It was very difficult to sell the\nprogram when we were independent. It really was a terrific conference for us to\njoin. And really no other option. Because there weren't any Division III schools\nat that time. Southwestern was NAIA at that time; so was TLU. Austin College, I\ndon't know what they were. But we were the only Division III school in Texas\n(INAUDIBLE) time, I'm pretty sure.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: What about like Incarnate Word, or any of (INAUDIBLE)?\n\nJENKINS: Well, Incarnate Word was Division II.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: Saint Mary's. Well, they were in that other--NAIA, or (INAUDIBLE).\n\nJENKINS: Yeah, maybe. Yeah, they might have been.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: Whatever it was. It was a different--\n\nJENKINS: Yeah. But anyway--so then that happened. And now we've kind of gone to\nanother phase. So we made that change in the early 1990s--full-time coaches,\njoined a conference, got the funding. Now we can get out and recruit, because\nwe're not wearing so many darn hats. We've reduced the workload. Well, I'm not\ngoing to say we reduced the workload; it allowed you to get out and recruit.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: To do it a different way.\n\nJENKINS: Right. So that happened. And then the next phase was, we went to\nfull-time assistant coaches, which is huge. I think we did that around 2005-ish\nor so. I've had a full-time assistant coach now probably 12 to 15 years. And\nnow, we're on our second phase of renovating the gym. If you're going to be\nsuccessful, you've got to have really outstanding facilities. And our facilities\nwere already great, but we kind of outgrew the building. We needed more locker\nroom space. We needed more than one weight room. We needed a nice cardio room\nfor all students and faculty. The cardio room was in an old dance studio. We\njust outgrew the building. So we are in such a good place right now. [Redacted]\nBut I feel so, so lucky to be where I am, because we are--I have no animosity\nabout the condition of women's athletics from when I got here. But I would not\nhave stayed here if they had not made the changes. I would have gone.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: Let me ask you this, Julie. This is a little more general question\nthat I would like to weave into the other things that we're doing. Overall, what\nbenefits do you see women acquiring from participating in intercollegiate\nathletics, beyond winning? Is there any sense of what--is there a plus to their\nexperience at college, versus students who don't go that route, or there are\nvalues that--? I guess I'm trying to get at values.\n\nJENKINS: Absolutely. First of all, our female student athletes have the highest\nGPA of any women on campus, period. And why is that? They come in here, and\nthey're not at the very top of their class. I carried 19 players on our\nvolleyball team this year, and there are some that are coming in at the very top\nof their class. I had a freshman, she's now a sophomore, gonna be a junior in\nthe fall, she got that trustee's scholarship, the full deal, when you come in\nand you interview. But you've got some kids that are coming in at the very top\nof their freshman class, and some that are coming in the middle, and some that\nare coming in the bottom. Every team we have is that way. But why is it that our\nteam GPA is higher than all women at Trinity, when they're not coming in on\npaper as the very brightest students? And the answer to that question, without a\ndoubt, is work ethic. It's work ethic like no other. And that is another reason\nwhy certain companies come in here and they purposely want to interview\nathletes. Because they know that they're team people. So they've got a\ntremendous work ethic. They know how to get along with people, and how to bite\nyour tongue and be tolerant, and not sweat the small stuff, and get along.\nBe ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/45828/file/118932#t=1800.0,2100.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/45828/file/118932/transcript/30481/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a team player. And then I think that they learn how to handle\nconflict. A lot of people run the opposite direction and they don't want to deal\nwith conflict, and you can't be that way. There's ups and downs, ebbs and flows,\nand you've got to deal with it. Sorry, but that's life, as you know. So I think\nthat they're much more equipped to handle conflict. I think that they are also\nbetter equipped to perform under pressure. And so we have a slogan on our team,\nand it's called CASH. And I tell my players it has nothing to do with money, but\nI tell them that my ultimate goal for them is that I want to be Confident,\nAmbitious, Strong, Happy women. That's my goal for them. And we talk about this\nall the time here. And I don't mean physically strong; I mean strong mentally.\nWhether I was coaching men or whether I was coaching women, that would be my\nultimate goal as a coach. For somebody who is playing a team sport, or even an\nindividual sport for that matter, that they grow up and they develop so much\nmore quickly socially than the non-athletes. There's no doubt about it.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: This is beyond what we're talking about here, but do you think\nthat what you're telling me--is there really less of that going on in the wider\nathletic world today? It seems to me that it's more the star kind of thing.\n\nJENKINS: I think that it is really unfortunate when a select few taint the image\nof athletics. I'm reading a book right now, it's called Attitude, and it's by\nthe Villanova coach. Oh my gosh, what is his name? I'm drawing a blank! Darn it,\nwhat is his name? But the Villanova coach won a national championship two years\nago, and he was at the Division III level. Popovich? He was at the Division III\nlevel; did you know that?\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: No.\n\nJENKINS: The Spurs' head coach? He was at Pomona Pitzer. And honestly, I think\nthat the kind of things that I'm talking about right now are the same at the\nDivision I level, too. Yes, there are some exceptions. There are a few bad\napples out there, whether it be coaches or whether it be athletes. But no, I\ndon't believe that for a minute. I think the majority of coaches are there to\nhelp build--to help their student athletes be successful in life, not just be\nsuccessful in that sport. Yes, I do.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: Do you know, even anecdotally, how many of your athletes actually\ngo on into the field of athletics?\n\nJENKINS: A few. But--\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: That isn't necessarily where they're headed.\n\nJENKINS: Physical education, when we got rid of that major, I thought it was the\nright move. Because kids aren't coming here to Trinity to major in PE. They're\ncoming here to do pre-med, engineering, accounting. They're not. But what I do\nwish we had--I'm glad we have the minor, which is sport management. Is that what\nwe call it now? I kind of wish, off of the biology department, I wish we had\nphysical therapy, because that's a really big field now. I do wish we had that,\nbut probably we never will. But what was the question? What did you ask me?\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: The last question was, are you seeing where they're going into--?\n\nJENKINS: Oh, are they going into that field.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: Yeah, right.\n\nJENKINS: Well, yes. But it's a select few. It wouldn't be as many as like let's\nsay we were at like maybe a UT Dallas. They probably don't have quite as many\npre-med and engineering majors as we do here at Trinity. Although I don't know.\nBut my assistant coach right now is Aly Lilley, and she's the person that I want\nto take over the program when I retire. She's one of my alumni, one of my\nplayers. And I've got another player who's coaching at Canyon High School.\nAnother one that's head coach at MacArthur High School, here in town.  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/45828/file/118932#t=2100.0,2400.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/45828/file/118932/transcript/30481/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI had one that was coaching at Katy High School, but she stepped down from\ncoaching. I've got a handful of players that went into coaching, but not many.\nIt's just not--\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: But that's not your real goal. Your real goal (INAUDIBLE).\n\nJENKINS: My goal as their coach? Heavens, no. Not even remotely. I want them to\npursue what their passion is. But I want them to use their experiences as an\nathlete to help them succeed.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: I only played athletics in high school. I didn't play in college.\nBut what I remembered was that there was a bonding--these were with other guys\nthat I would never have gotten--and I didn't necessarily like them personally,\nbut when we got together as that team, we were friends, and we cared for each\nother in a way that--honestly, that was--I sensed more of that than I did going\nto church or anyplace else. And I hated to see this to where there were places\nwhere these coaches didn't instill that. But that wasn't a problem when I was\ngoing to high school. That's the value that I saw, in athletics. It was an\nexperience that, when you're playing athletics, you can't do it by yourself. And\nmost sports, you can't do it. If the guard doesn't block, the halfback doesn't\nrun, no touchdown. And I can remember our coach saying, \"The guy that ran the\nball, you don't celebrate. Because you want to celebrate--everybody celebrates.\"\n\nJENKINS: Right. Because everybody was part of it.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: They couldn't do it--well, one last comment. You mentioned that\nLibby Johnson--I'm trying to find out what happened to her. I know when she died.\n\nJENKINS: Yeah, Terri Hailey will tell you all about her. She played for her.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: Like what she did after she left.\n\nJENKINS: Well, after she left here--she died of a heart attack, a couple years later.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: See, I didn't know that. Yeah, 1993, she died.\n\nJENKINS: Probably part of that had to do with how worn down she was here at\nTrinity. It's disgusting. But she left--I believe--I never got to meet her, and\nI heard all about her. But I'm very close to Terri Hailey.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: Right. 1981 I think is when she left.\n\nJENKINS: And she has told me all about her. But she took a year off, and then\nshe went to Alamo Heights and taught.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: Oh, she did?\n\nJENKINS: I'm pretty sure. Alamo Heights High School. And taught there for a\ncouple years. And then died.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: So she stayed in San Antonio?\n\nJENKINS: As far as I know.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: Because on Amazon.com, we found--\n\nJENKINS: Because you know, she's in our Athletic Hall of Fame.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: Yeah, right.\n\nJENKINS: But we were never able to contact any family members to let them know.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: Well, see, that's what I'm trying to figure out. I've located a nephew.\n\nJENKINS: Of Libby Johnson?\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: Yeah. Let's see. On her mother's side.\n\nJENKINS: Did you happen to mention that she has been inducted into the Hall of Fame?\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: No, I haven't got a hold of him yet.\n\nJENKINS: Okay. Well, if you do, please let them know. In fact, I would be happy\nto send them something, if they wanted. Because we're swapping out our plaques.\nI could send them the plaque that's on the wall.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: Well, I can't find an obit. In there, all they had was she died\nsomething like July 24th, 1993. She was a resident of Texas. So that's not an\nobit. Somebody put that in. And so I was going to--in fact, this week, I was\ngone on this trip--I'm going to call that (INAUDIBLE)--she's a native of this\nlittle town up in northeast (SP) and they have a paper that if there was an obit\nof her in that paper. But you're telling me more than I know.\n\nJENKINS: She was the real pioneer of women's athletics at Trinity, more than\nanyone. Libby.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: And in what we're doing, I want to flesh this out. The students\ndid a paper on her, in a sports--they got some things wrong. They had that she\ndied in 1988. And I was working on that date, and then I realized there was\nanother Libby Johnson.\n\nJENKINS: You know, Libby might have died in 1988.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: No, no, she died in 1993. There was another Libby Johnson, the\nwrong Libby Johnson.\n\nJENKINS: Well, I came in 1985, and she died two or three years after (INAUDIBLE).\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: Okay, well, maybe--\n\nJENKINS: I kind of think-- ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/45828/file/118932#t=2400.0,2700.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/45828/file/118932/transcript/30481/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"actually, I think it's the other one. I'm\ntexting Terri right now.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: Because there was another Libby Johnson who died in 1988, but she\nwas not that Libby Johnson.\n\nJENKINS: 1988 or--what was the other one?\n\nBRACKENDRIGE: 1993, I think was--\n\nJENKINS: I feel pretty certain that it's the 1988. Because I came in 1985, and\nshe was no longer working here. And Terri told me that she took a year off and\ntaught for a couple years, and then died.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: Well, that may be right, see! But the one Libby Johnson that I saw\ndied in 1988 was not the right Libby Johnson. But then this thing on Amazon.com\nhad the date--July 24th, something--\n\nJENKINS: Well, Terri will know. As soon as she texts me back (INAUDIBLE).\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: 1993. Okay. Look, I really appreciate your time.\n\nJENKINS: Sure. Is there anything else that you can think of? Because I'm doing okay.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: I've done a lot of general reading. In fact, even when I did that\nTrinity history, I couldn't go into depth on everything, but I was aware of the\nfact that--and I was aware when I was here of the inequities. And I remember (INAUDIBLE)--\n\nJENKINS: Yeah. So it's not that we didn't have the recordkeeping. It's that we\nhad major inequities!\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: I understand that.\n\nJENKINS: And it wasn't that--\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: Well, I can't even find the athletic council. Trinity had an\nathletic council. Now, you can't--those were university committees. I can only find--\n\nJENKINS: Well, they're not going to have the stats there.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: The athletic department doesn't seem to have them. And the only\nones I--\n\nJENKINS: Well, they would have given you anything they had. But I think (Gerald)\nSmetzer would be a good one to talk to, Terri Hailey for sure, and James Hill.\nJames Hill was the SID then! He should know where the stats are. The answer is,\nthey didn't have 'em! Terri told me for women's basketball, they did not keep\nblocks. They didn't even keep (INAUDIBLE).\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: No, no. No, no. All I was wanting was to get the rosters--\n\nJENKINS: Oh, right, right, right.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: --so that I could pick out some women. And we want to interview--\n\nJENKINS: Well, let me tell you; Terri is a good starting point. Because she will\ntell you people that you should interview. And Teresa Machu is another one.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: I know. I have her on my--\n\nJENKINS: Do you have her cell number?\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: No, but I know she works at Northeast (ISD), or she did?\n\nJENKINS: She did, but let me give you her cell. She would be a great one to talk\nto. And Terri--well, Teresa is younger than Terri. Terri played 1977 through\n1981. I think Teresa was more in the 1980s. But you still could talk to her.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: I know her. I think I may even have had her as a student. The\nother thing--I picked up something back before your time, when Winipress dropped\nDivision I football. That was a big thing. No athletic scholarships. Then he\ncreated this Texas--a conference for us. And when they drew things up, the first\ndraft, it had--like for volleyball or for basketball, the women played first,\nthen the men. Then the next game, the men played first, then the women played second.\n\nJENKINS: Maybe so, but that's not the way it--\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: That got crossed out.\n\nJENKINS: (laughs) I'm sure it (INAUDIBLE)\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: That got crossed out very quickly.\n\nJENKINS: Because Terri told me, when she was playing basketball, that the girls\nhad to finish their practice by 3:30. The men were coming in; too bad about your\nclass schedule. If you couldn't make it, you couldn't make it. And there was no\ngetting around that. But things were changing when I came in, because we did not\ngive up the gym for women's and men's basketball during volleyball. Things were\nchanging when I came in. But anyway, again, I just never even thought about that\nstuff, because I was such tunnel vision, trying to get my sport off the ground.\nAnd plus, I was happy. I loved working for Shirley and for Gene. I loved it! I\nmean, I thought, \"This is super. This is a great environment.\" But I knew that\nthere were talks of renovating the gym, talks of getting in a conference. So I\nfelt like everything was going to fall into place.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: Well, you hit at a good time, because that decade before--Dr.\nLaurie died in 1970, and that was the end of a big era. And then we came with\nDr. Winipress, and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/45828/file/118932#t=2700.0,3000.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/45828/file/118932/transcript/30481/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that was a period of big inflation, and a lot of\nturmoil economically and so forth. And he never--it's hard to follow somebody\nlike Laurie, and he was not the right guy to follow. He was pretty thin-skinned,\nand--you know. And then this push into dropping the football. And that hurt us\nin terms of press coverage in the papers. They said we were playing amateur. And\nthen that--\n\nJENKINS: It's still that way. They won't cover us in the paper now, either.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: I know, I know. The story about baseball, and that was about the\nonly one that I've seen in a while. And the only time Trinity is in the--and you\nknow this--is some student does something bad. And I think a lot of it goes back\na long way. That we're perceived as up on the hill and being wealthy and being\nAnglo. And Incarnate Word and the other schools are seen more blue collar, more\ninvolved--and even though we have been involved with the city and so forth. But\nI think that hurt.\n\nJENKINS: So way back then, did we have as many international students as we have now?\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: Well, I don't know how many we have now. But we've always--\n\nJENKINS: Because we've got kids from I think they say 40 (SP) different\ncountries. But I love the diversity at this campus, because of the fact that we\ndo have kids from all over the world. Yes, we are mainly Anglo still, but I\nthink we're more diverse than ever, it seems like.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: Well, the thing is, Julie, that we're diverse in different ways.\nThat when I came, we were more diverse in terms of socioeconomic. We had a lot\nof farm people, rural people. And they were C students, but they weren't dumb\npeople; they were smart people. And we had older people. We had a lot of\nolder--we had military.\n\nJENKINS: Yeah, I remember we had the ROTC every summer.\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: We had military that were actually in the military, taking\ncourses. So we had a different kind of diversity. And it wasn't until--we didn't\nget our first African American athletes until the early 1960s. We made an effort\nto become part of Southwest Conference, and that fizzled. Nobody was really\ninterested in who we were playing and what we were doing. But I think that even\nnow, to me, I'm surprised, the times I've gone to games and that, I don't see\nvery many students. I see parents with families, who are there.\n\nJENKINS: Yeah, it's still--\n\nBRACKENRIDGE: And the students who ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/45828/file/118932#t=3000.0,3300.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/45828/file/118932/transcript/30481/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"are--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/45828/file/118932#t=3300.0,3600.0"}]},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/45828/file/118932/index/48297","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Interview96832_(1).xml [Index]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/45828/file/118932/index/48297/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Introduction","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/45828/file/118932#t=0.0,235.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/45828/file/118932/index/48297/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Julie Jenkins is giving insight into her coaching experience prior to Trinity University. She discusses how Trinity was introduced to her as well as giving her reasoning for pursuing coaching Athletics at Trinity. She also recounts her interview process and discussion with President Calgaard of Trinity prior to taking coaching position","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Synopsis"]}}],"target":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/45828/file/118932#t=0.0,235.0"},{"id":"https://trinityuniversity.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1501/collection_resources/45828/file/118932/index/48297/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"Okay... This is May 22nd, 2017. And I'm talking with Julie Jenkins who has been a member of our Trinity Athletic Staff since 1985... coached Volleyball, Softball, Junior Varsity Tennis. 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